Romans 10:14 "They Cannot Learn Without A Preacher"

"Christians have never been able to establish any hermeneutic that can be independently verified...There is literally nothing to stop a Christian from interpreting the Bible in whatever way suites their biases"

The most amusing, is when people listen to a preacher teach a blatant falsehood, straight to their faces about the simplest verse or concepts. People are so brainwashed, they do not believe they can trust their own brain to comprehend a reading of "the Holy Bible". As if there's something so sacred, spirit daddy alone can understand and explain it. People won't read the scripture them self using critical reasoning and attention to detail. Much less, an original opinion, that goes against "what we've always heard it means".They are dependent on spirit-daddy who stands behind the pulpit to explain a simple sentence. People shake their heads in agreement, as though under some kind of hypnotic trance. And from that point on, they continue to cite that misinterpreted verse, generation after generation, never questioning. They can open their Bible, and see the verse with their own two eyes and yet they still read it through the filter of misinterpretation because that's how they heard it read once in church, or how their neighbor interprets it... but if you actually read the verse, it says something entirely different. Things like this, will test your sanity! All because a preacher in the past read it that way. How many times have people repeated, "Spare the Rod. Spoil the Child"? as though it were holy writ from the Bible? The phrase “spare the rod, spoil the child” comes from Proverbs 13:24, “He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him.”

Discipline does not mean beating the crap out of your kids. The verse in the Bible emphasizes to correct and teach in a loving manner. Fundamentalist thumpers (with an agenda) misinterpreted out of their own prejudice, and extrapolated it to mean, regularly beat your kids senseless. And from time forward the lie became the truth. The way theists interpret, as well as outside systems of belief.

Preachers are infamous for taking a verse from the bible, reading it within the context of their peculiar doctrines, and then the incorrect verse becomes the accepted version. Nobody reads with new eyes, open mind, free from doctrinal rhetoric. In that hypnotic state, induced by mainstream preacher-speak, it is impossible for people to read plain English. "But nobody is saying that." Ha, do I need approval to call a spade, a spade?!

They stumble over the greatest simplicities in this manner. And the funny thing is, as many times as preachers have mislead people in this way, to the point of widespread misinterpretation of the most simple scriptures, people STILL continue to believe and teach the lie, that it is impossible to understand the Bible, without a spirit-daddy at the pulpit, reading scripture for you.

Romans 10:14 "...and how shall they hear without a preacher?"

How can they trust a preacher?! You can't trust preachers. I trust ME and me only to correctly read English, Hebrew, or whatever for myself.
I read the Bible (past tense) and when I did I came away realizing that 75% of the things I was taught about what the Bible said was a lie. I've seen so many times, controversies would erupt on television or elsewhere on theology.. and when I went back to the Bible, to the verses in dispute, I learned the Bible didn't even say what they're saying it does.

Matthew 15:13 "if a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit."


even the verse Romans 10:14 "...and how shall they hear without a preacher?"

Has often been construed, by religionists, to convince people of the importance that they *must* attend a church, as well as discouraging personal study by reassuring them that they can not properly read, comprehend or correctly interpret scripture on their own for lack of some intermediator, "for only he knows the will of God." Therefore, they need a preacher, mediator, an interpreter.

I had that very thing said to me, again and again, by those seeking to convert me to their religion or church, when my own conscience was telling me, "I do not want to attend a church which teaches false doctrines.". When they looked at my library of theology books, disparagingly they pursed their lips and sneered, "You cannot learn without a preacher." and citing Romans 10:14 as the authority by which they speak.

But that is NOT what the verse is conveying in its true context. You could not walk into a Barnes & Nobles bookstore in AD 56 and purchase a Bible. Romans was written in a period when people didn't have access to modern printing presses or books. So, logically, how would people hear without a preacher?

Today, in our modern day, with millions of Bibles readily available what excuse remains for the continuation of this evil lie.. this false teaching which sprang up from simply "mis-reading scripture," and since it served the pulpit very profitably, this lie was spread far and wide. Purposely taken out of context and used as an excuse to badger, berate, manipulate and otherwise shackle people into attendance of their church. A lie which has been perpetuated, generation after generation after generation and until people start speaking the truth, such a lie will continue to be propagated in churches, around the world.

When do people learn to read what is written in such plain language, in black and white? and question EVERY THING the church has taught them?

In light of the obvious, are Christians, in modern time with availability of a public education system, ILLITERATE, and need a tutor to read to them?

This makes me question not only the lack of availability to printing presses and books, but the question of literacy of the "Hearers" during the era in which Romans was written.

Literacy and Culture in Early Christianity
Books and Readers in the Early Church: A History of Early Christian Texts
Gamble begins his first chapter with an intriguing quote from Origen. Perhaps the greatest biblical scholar of the early church, Origen was defending the scriptures from the accusation of being literarily lackluster. He did not defend the gospels as masterpieces of literature, but rather argued,
It was not any power of speaking, or any orderly arrangement of their message, according to the arts of Grecian dialectics or rhetoric, which was in them the effective cause of converting their hearers. Nay, I am of opinion that if Jesus had selected some individuals who were wise according to the apprehension of the multitude, and who were fitted both to think and speak so as to please them, and had used such as the ministers of His doctrine, He would most justly have been suspected of employing artifices, like those philosophers who are the leaders of certain sects, and consequently the promise respecting the divinity of His doctrine would not have manifested itself; for had the doctrine and the preaching consisted in the persuasive utterance and arrangement of words, then faith also, like that of the philosophers of the world in their opinions, would have been through the wisdom of men, and not through the power of God. (Against Celsus 1.62)

Origen goes on to quote Paul’s response to his cultured Corinthian despisers (1 Cor 2.4-5). Similarly, Acts portrays the apostles as “unlettered and uneducated”

My Source goes on to say:

"..Still, it is important to recognize that “literacy,” was both extremely rare and widely varied. It was rare in the sense that most people could not read. It was varied in that “literacy” could describe one’s ability to read a simple text aloud or the skills to compose lengthy texts.
The typical estimate of literacy, broadly defined as “the ability to read or write at any level” (4) was only about 10 percent of society at large. The lack of any widespread educational system meant literacy was limited to the elite."

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Mark Twain Sympathy For The Devil


There are bigger fish to fry than Agnostics and Atheists.

"But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?"
~ Mark Twain

Matthew 19:26 "Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."

Then I say, PRAY for Satan to be forgiven so that all evil may be vanquished.

The Lord teaches us to forgive our enemies but can God forgive his?

Matt. 17:20 "And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you."

Do you believe Satan can never be offered redemption or receive salvation?
Have you prayed for the redemption of the Devil?
Who prays for Satan?
Agnostics and Atheists are just tiny souls. Why waste time on the little fish? If Satan is redeemed, ALL of mankind may be saved.
Is this piteous lost soul condemned to spend all of eternity in the abyss because Christians lacked faith and failed to utter a prayer in behalf of his salvation?

Do not say, it is impossible. "... with God all things are possible ... "

The Prodigal Son and Satan (salvation, unpardonable, hell, eternal)

A conversation, found here.

Why doesn't the classic parable apply to Satan???
It should. That's how I view the whole concept of Satan.

Because Satan didn't/doesn’t come back to god and ask for forgiveness?

But what if he did?

He can't. he commited the unpardonable sin, he rebelled with a full knowlege of the glory of God in its fullness.


So, as the Quest Study Bible puts it, “Jesus gave the solemn warning in these verses to people whose hard-heartedness placed them on the brink of disaster. Blasphemy against the Spirit evidently is not just a one-time offense; rather, it is an ongoing attitude of rebellion – a stubborn way of life that continually resists, rejects and insults the Holy Spirit. This is what makes it, in effect, an eternal sin (Mark 3:29). Blasphemy against the Spirit is not unforgivable because of something done unintentionally in the past, but because of something being done deliberately and unrelentingly in the present.”

Therefore, Satan CAN be redeemed.

But you, Christian, will not pray for his salvation, and his eternal d*mnation will be to your own discredit.

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    If educated and reason-minded Christian men of science like Louis Agassiz found it plausible to embrace the concept of a supernatural entity at work in nature, then the possibility is good enough for me.

    Science Fact: "The Sun and all the planets were formed at around the same time, depending on when you define the birth of the sun. Before the Sun became as it is today it was a proto sun, which had all the elements it has now but it just had not started the nuclear reaction which fuels today's sun. As the sun started to form from the debris of the dust/particle cloud so did all the planets."
    The entire commentary (link).
    The Earth is not Young, but the Sun's nuclear reaction, is... based on fossil evidence, a wee 500 million years old.

    Astronomers Discover Coldest Star Ever [VIDEO]

    Early Earth

    But what about Stromatolites and photosynthesis 3.5 billion years ago?

    That's covered here in full.

    Had there been any sunlight, it would have never reached the surface of the Earth, anyway.

    Early Earth

    I profess my innocense of the crime of Bibliolatry, however, I am scathed with certain Atheists who've somehow came to the conclusion their deconversion (which soon lead to blasphemous attacks on people of faith and anti-religious tyrades) supposedly equal a one size fits all, "patent truth"(TM), or even worse, a "scientific truth." Only the religious minded are under the delusion they advance their creeds by deception and claims to possess a monopoly on "absolute truths". Not unlike their counterparts Theistic Fundamentalists, who also believe they monopolize some sacred "Truth of Truths"(TM)... yet in my years acquainting both extremes, not much appears to be about an actual search for greater truths, understanding or knowledge. Rather, hatred and bigotry tend to be the motivating factor behind their many senseless squabbles.

    Straight from Scripture Commentary:

    Trees Before Sunlight
    See the King James Hebrew-Greek KeyWord Study Bible, AMG Publishers, 1991 for yet another reprint of this century-old LIE. This EVIL lie has been told and retold by theologians, biblical scholars, preachers and priests to paralyze brains of the religious, so that they may continue unabated generating billions in tithes and donations from the faithful, never again to question the dishonest anti-Darwinist rhetoric, so the church can continue fighting to stamp out truth and enlightenment. These men within the hallowed halls of the establishment of organized religion, just as those priests, the murderers of Jesus, are the enemies of God because "God" can only be found on the side of what is proven to be TRUTH. And I present the truth here vs. their evil lies that have deceived millions.

    Prototaxites, A Fossil Fruiting Fungi, 'Tree'
    Scientists discovered this fossilized, non-photosynthetic, fruiting "tree," and call it Prototaxites.

    They said it couldn't be done, but here it is, thanks to modern science and praise to God for revealing the truth about the fossil record. Still waiting on evangelicals to address this fossil discovery and begin owning up to their wretched LIES and DAMNED LIES for over a century... if it looks, waddles and quacks like a tree... its probably a tree.
        "The various attempts to join together the biblical account of creation and evolution are not supportable by the various gap theories because the order of creation is in direct opposition to the views of modern science (e.g., the creation of trees before light.)"
    Source: King James Hebrew-Greek KeyWord Study Bible, AMG Publishers, 1991

    Yes, finally, trees exactly as described in Genesis, before, and without sunlight. And no, it's not another lame hoax. (Short) and (Long). See, Prototaxites, Fossilized "Fruiting Fungi," 'Tree'.

    Also see Evolution of the Earliest Plant Organisms, specifically the "Fruiting Fungi" which fits an identical description,
    1. Has fruit with "seed" (spores) inside itself, and
    2. Can survive without sunlight (exactly as described in Genesis). Such organisms would have certainly existed during the Vendian/Precambrian.
    3. For a long time, scientists presumed or presume a giant "mystery fungi" was a tree, a conifer, to be precise... and some have now described it as one of the "Fruiting Fungi".

    Also, see "Fruit Trees Before Sunlight".

    I Challenge All with this Thousand Dollar Question:
    Please engage brain and point out where either term, "Create" or "Design," even appear in this text of Genesis?
    Genesis 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth (tender) grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
    Genesis 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
    Genesis 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

    Still Waiting...

    When you Atheists or Fundamentalist Xtian Darwin-haters can squeeze "creation" or "design" out of any of those verses which imply natural selection, let me know.

    And yes Atheists... please spare your sermon. Don't preach to the choir. I know all too well what you believe.

    Just because people become familiarized with Atheism, hardly means they are so blown away... so mesmerized with "The Truth"(TM) and taken in by a few persuasive argument fallacies that they automatically deconvert and lose faith. That they didn't accept your religion, hardly constitutes a lack of understanding. Perhaps it's just that Atheism is that unappealing. *The Shock* *The Awe* -- how could everyone not see things your way? They're just in denial. (Sound familiar?) Every religious adherent is *in shock* and *in awe* when others do not want to buy into their brand of religion and they fail to convince potential converts. Just as my views might not interest you, well, perhaps I am fully understanding your views and yet, Atheism still remains just that unappealing. Mainly because of the hateful attitudes and blatant lies that often accompany "The Truth"(TM). Any religion that has that extent of negativity in it can't be good for anyone's emotional well-being. Meanwhile, I fully understand why most people will not subscribe to my views. Foremost, it requires a minimal amount of knowledge of several scientific fields of study and secondly, reasoning that requires "thinking outside the box". Lastly, I'm not proposing to have any "One and Only Truth(TM)". Just presenting scientific facts whilst challenging long-held cherished falsehoods as well as faith in people to exercise critical reasoning and make up their own minds, and whatever conclusion people may arrive at is fine with me.

    Trees and Plants Before Sunlight
    Documentary from "The Soviet Story,"
    Jim Jones was a Communist
    Eddie Vedder
    Stage Name Marilyn Manson
    Alice in Chains

    The religious establishment and their twisted evil twin, anti-religion baiters said it couldn't be done, yet...


    Vegetation, Herbs and Trees Before Sunlight.
    Oh well, I guess that dashes arguments of Atheists and Science-Hating fundamentalists to little itsy bitsy pieces.
    (and more found here)

    Karl Marx Created Adolf Hitler
    Darwin's theory did not create Hitler as some have accused, nor did Hitler's Socialism have anything to do with Jesus Christ or Christianity. Besides Eugenics programme in early American history and over 27 states which had sterilization laws on the books before the time of Nazi Germany, Hitler derived his version of Communist ideologue, "National Socialism" directly from the Socialism of Karl Marx, advocate of the most malevolent version of toxic Atheism, and author of The Communist Manifesto which lead to the bloody death toll of at least 100 million in the 20th Century alone and the killing continues ...
    See Anti-Communism

    For more information on Communism, and the ghastly death tolls:

    The Black Book of Communism
    Black Book of Communism

    Harvard University Press
    Communist regimes around the globe are responsible for a greater number of deaths than any other political ideal or movement. It takes a brick of a book to provide the crushing scope of this murderous ideology, that killed tens of millions in the 20th Century and that will continue to kill.

    And while we're on the subject, let's set the record straight about Jim Jones, another evil, toxic atheist and Marxist-Leninist.
    "How could I demonstrate my Marxism? The thought was, infiltrate the church."
    - Jim Jones, founder of the murderous "People's Temple," a disgusting Atheist and Marxist degenerate camouflaged under the guise of being "A man of God".
    Carried out to the instruction as Marxist Revolutionary Vladimir Lenin, founder of the USSR, stated a necessity to infiltrate the Church, because the religious will '"swallow anything" if it is wrapped in religious terms.'

    Hitler, Messiah, Anti-Christ
    Like Atheist Stalin, Hitler wages a war against people of all religion.
    (See Commentary Link.)

    Communists murdered 100 Million over the past century.

    Communist party members are Atheists.

    And no, sorry, but Joseph Stalin was not a Christian because he attended seminary once and Christianity did not turn him into a butcher. George Bernard Shaw was no Christian either when he openly supported Hitler and mass genocide by gassing.

    I’m an atheist and I thank God for it.”
    - George Bernard Shaw

    Atheists know this doesn't look good when they attempt to convert people to Atheism, and people are aware of the death tolls under Communist regimes so Atheists will do mental cartwheels to conveniently deny history or come up with some other lame twisted argument fallacy to explain away the atrocities committed by Atheists, such as, "Communists worship the state," I suppose therefore they're not Atheists?? Hogwash! Enough of the silly grammar school semantics!! That's not what the Communist Party is saying, Atheists!! To become a member of the Atheist State Religion, ooops, I mean Communist Party, you must be a sworn Atheist. No exceptions!

    Darwin was never the problem. ATHEISM was the problem!? No wonder Christians rejected Darwin's theory after people like George Bernard Shaw and Karl Marx latched on to it like the parasites they were!

    I believe in the religion of Love which the Prophet Jesus Christ taught.
    So, Atheists! Looks like that agenda to convert the world to your religion of atheism has alas backfired. Your hate propaganda has turned people off. People as a whole are still as spiritual as ever, if not more so. Oh, don't delude yourself, people understand very very well what you believe, and I know all too well what you believe with your religion of hate. Whatever side you're on, I'm not there!!!

    My favorite Atheist, Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam, whose wonderful song "Jeremy" brought attention to the anguish of kids who deal with school bullies vs. my least favorite

    Mr. Brian Warner, aka Marilyn "Who Needs Fred Phelps?" Manson? guilty of regularly bullying and abusing his employees, both physically and mentally. THE VIDEOS ARE DISTURBING. Just "boys being boys"? or more age old ignorance that leads to a society of bullies. Most people have heard about the evil antics, but remain oblivious to the level of inappropriate bullying and ruthless violence even band members apparently have grown weary of.

    Saving the best for last.

    Sorry 'tis not Atheist that I can tell, but it is Alice in Chains. My favorite band of all time, brazenly questioning religious dogma and rhetoric.

    And not to forget my commentary on the meaning of Soundgarden: Black Hole Sun A must read... or at least, a must-listen!