Jim Jones was an Atheist, not the Man of God, Atheists have Claimed

I'm taking the liberty to post a little bit of information that's been compiled regarding the "spiritual beliefs" of Jim Jones, leader of the mass suicidal, People's Temple cult from Jonestown (1978).



Jim Jones and Jonestown Sing Soviet Anthem
New audio of Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple singing the National Anthem of the Soviet Union, to which they often refer as their "spiritual motherland." Temple members often sang the anthem after nightly meetings.
There's an entirely incorrect misconception from people who don't read about Jonestown that the Temple members were messainic religious nuts. They were most definitely not. They were communists looking for an exodus to the USSR before their final mass suicide. They were also vehement atheists (Jones ridiculed people that believed in "the sky God"). The PT repeatedly explained that they used religion ("religion is an opiate of the masses") to convert people to socialism.
They were mostly politically minded. They also weren't looking to die. Many thought Jones prior discussions of war and suicide were just part of a long line of dramatic proclamations he'd always made but never came remotely close to consummating through action. Until November 18. Note that Jim Jones had met and was friends with Paul Robeson, who happens to sing the most famous English version of the anthem.

He sure was active in seemingly good causes.
Wikipedia states: "Condemnation of Robeson and his beliefs came swiftly, from both....mainstream black organizations including the NAACP."

To make certain this video doesn't end up in file 13 of youtube, it's available here as well:

Jim Jones and Jonestown Sing Soviet Anthem


This video too,
Jim Jones: "I decided how can I demonstrate my Marxism? The thought was, infiltrate the church."




The Peoples Temple and Jim Jones devolve in 1976 from a San Francisco political juggernaut secretly harboring designs of world communist revolution to, in 1978, a paranoid North Korean-style enclave in Jonestown. There, they negotiate with the Soviet Union, North Korea and others for a possible exodus. A Soviet delegation visits Jonestown, showering it with praise. Captured on audio, three weeks before Congressman Ryan, NBC and others visit, they vote to commit Revolutionary Suicide to further the cause of Marxist-Leninism. The day before Congressman Ryan arrives, Jones announced to Jonestown (and recorded on tape) he's not passing up the opportunity to shoot him. Two days later, they do precisely as Jones had claimed: The Temple's "Red Brigade" killed Ryan and four others. The only murder of a Congressman in the line of duty in U.S. history. Popular NBC reporter Don Harris is also murdered. Then, just as the Temple had voted three weeks before, over 900 members commit Revolutionary Suicide -- the largest death toll of American civilians in a non-natural disaster until 9-11. They die in a "White Night" -- an emergency meeting of the Temple to discuss options to prevent takeover by outside forces. Jonestown had 84 White Nights before the final one.
Tags: Jonestown Jim Jones Peoples Temple Kool-Aid Cult Massacre Communist Socialist Marxist Soviet Suicide Carter Moscone Mondale


Jim Jones and Jonestown - Devolution from Political Force to Revolutionary Suicide


Some are already aware of the philosophical ties between Jim Jones and the Atheistic Soviet Union. I'll let the following documentation explain itself, but the question remains in mind, why, for so many years did the liberal media lead the masses to believe Jim Jones was a fanatical "Christian," just as many have accused that Adolf Hitler was a "Christian"? Why do these misconceptions continue to pervade across the web and media. Perhaps until Christians, no longer recognize a Christian. Adolf Hitler and Jim Jones have one thing in common and that is: SOCIALISM. At best, Hitler was a deist, giving benefit of the doubt to the existence of a higher power, but he certainly did not have the makings of a "Christian" in spirit (i.e., the fruits of the spirit mentioned in Galatians). I'm lead to the same conclusion in regard to George W. Bush, who proclaims himself to be "Conservative Christian" in the public eye, but both Sr. and Jr., have been willing participants in the Bohemian Grove's satanic mock sacrifices of humans, at the infamous Bohemian Grove. See video by Alex Jones on YouTube.

Alex Jones - Secrets in Bohemian Grove

People, this is not Christianity!!! and there's nothing at all "conservative" about it. Like Jim Jones and Adolf Hitler, George W. Bush is a sworn Socialist, implementing global "marxist economics" in the name of Jesus. Can somebody say amen?

jim_jones.mp3

One evangelical preacher (above) discusses the problem with Jim Jones, there were no bibles ... no place to pray... what else than Communism? Unfortunately, I have only part of that preacher's voice recorded to MP3 format, and welcome others to download. Perhaps somebody can recognize his voice and tell me who he is. The actual text to the entirety of his sermon, went as follows:

SGH said about 1 year ago:
He said 'I was Jim Jones' attorney.' I said 'When did you find out that he was not the man of God that he was billed to be?' He said 'When I visited Jonestown, when I walked in his so-called church. He said there was no bible, there were no holy pictures, there was no cross. Nothing. And I looked him right in the eye and I said to him 'Why is it there's no bible, and there's no place to pray?' He said 'We don't need that anymore,' and he says 'I am no longer your attorney, and you no longer need me.' And he walked out of there when Representative Ryan flew in to Guyana, the first man he called was Sir Lionel Luckhoo, and asked him to fly with him to Jonestown, he said 'God will not let me go'. If he had have gone he wouldn've been massacred with Representative Ryan, are you listening to me? And I'm going to reveal something to you that possibly the public does not know - Sir Lionel Luckhoo told me that the coroner was a close personal friend of his, and he said that he examined every single one of the bodies, this was not a mass-suicide like the world was brainwashed into thinking, but when that coroner examined the bodies, there was a pinhole in ninety-seven percent of all the bodies, they were injected with a poiso*, it was a mass-murder, because men and women were following a man, and I am going to let every one of you that are here under this tent, you that are listening to this radio broadcast, My God don't follow a man, don't follow a church, if you're going to follow somebody, follow Jesus! Follow Jesus! Look unto Jesus who is the author and the finisher of your fate, the devil is out to destroy every child of God that he can find! Can you shout 'Amen' somebody?''


Sir Lionel Luckhoo's Testimony on Jim Jones, 1983 (9:50 duration)

The full audio of Jim Jones attorney is available here in its full one hour+ length entirety (12 megabyte download), where you can find Sir Luckhoo discussing Jim Jones' unbelief in God and Communist views around the 24:50 of 1:08:57 time marker. Luckhoo describes Jones as, "Satanist" and that 85-90% of the people at Jonestown were murdered... he mentions Jim Jones communist ideologue, which is no longer a secret on the web.

Fresh 30 Year Old Kool-Aid: Jim Jones And Barack Obama’s Evangelical Marxism"
"...November 18, 1978, after he killed 918 people, somehow or another he went from what he was known as especially in his home area of San Francisco, he moved in the eyes of Americans from an American leftist to an evangelical Christian fanatic. It was the Christian in him that did it. We’ve seen this happen over and over and over again, socialist dreams ending in ghoulish nightmares and then conveniently shifted. They shift everything into a commentary on organized religion and how evil organized religion is. It’s important for those who have eyes and those who have ears to hear and eyes to see that they see history beginning to repeat itself. Even the Nation magazine represented at the time, the Temple — Jim Jones’ Temple — was as much of a left wing political crusade as a church. Let me say that again. “The Temple was as much a left wing political crusade as a church.” I want you to see if you can put any of the people that you are currently seeing out in today’s political landscape into any of these characters from 1978. In the course of the 1970s the Jim Jones church social program grew steadily more disaffiliated from what Jim Jones came to regard as fascist America.
Jim Jones was against fascist America and their social programs drifted rapidly towards outspoken communist sympathies, so much that the last will and testament of the people’s temple, the people’s temple and its individual members left notes. They bequeathed millions of dollars in assets to… do you know? The people, 918 of them that were killed by that crazy religious Christian preacher, after they drank the Kool-Aid, who did they leave their millions to? The Soviet Union. As Jones expressed to a Soviet diplomat upon his visit to Jonestown months before the suicides took place, quote: For many years we have let our sympathies be quite publicly known that the United States government is not our mother but the Soviet Union was our spiritual mother land.
I’m trying to get my arms around the spirituality of the former Soviet Union. “Jim Jones was an evangelical communist who became a minister only to infiltrate the church with the gospel according to Marx and Lenin. He was an atheist missionary. He knew he could bring the message of socialist redemption to Christians. Quote: I decided how can I demonstrate my Marxism.
This is Jim Jones speaking. “The thought was infiltrate the church.”
Try to think back. Is there anybody that you have heard that is preaching Marxist philosophies in church? Is there anyone who is bringing the Marxist philosophies and doing it with anger and bitterness against the United States? Have you seen anyone like that on the horizon? Have you seen anyone who is influencing others, whoever those others may be? /EXCERPT


Far cry from the misconception that Jim Jones was a "fanatic religious leader," never once did the liberal (leftwing/marxist influenced) media try to correct that misconception that Jim Jones was in fact the opposite, a Communist fanatic... and they will go on saying Jim Jones was a "Christian" along with Charles Manson, Adolf Hitler and George Bush... diluting the truth, until nobody even recognizes what Christianity even means anymore.
I found the Luckhoo speech at the following source: 12 megabyte download
Like Hitler, setting himself as a "Messiah" ... like Lenin and Josef Stalin... murderous socialist messiahs.
The Testimony of Sir Lionel Luckhoo
"Since the thirtieth anniversary of the Jonestown massacre/suicide is coming up on Tuesday, it’s good to rerun a podcast from last year: the testimony of Sir Lionel Luckhoo, Jim Jones’ lawyer and one of the world’s most successful trial attorneys. Sir Lionel talks about his relationship with Jim Jones and how he ultimately came to find his Saviour and Lord."
"The testimony of Sir Lionel Luckhoo, the Guyanese lawyer and diplomat. He held the Guinness Book of World Records place for the largest number of successive murder acquittals (245). He accepted Christ as his Saviour in the midst of his defence of Jim Jones before the Jonestown massacre in 1978. He gave this testimony in August 1983 at a meeting of the Full Gospel Businessmen’s Fellowship International in Chattanooga, Tennessee.

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If educated and reason-minded Christian men of science like Louis Agassiz found it plausible to embrace the concept of a supernatural entity at work in nature, then the possibility is good enough for me.

Science Fact: "The Sun and all the planets were formed at around the same time, depending on when you define the birth of the sun. Before the Sun became as it is today it was a proto sun, which had all the elements it has now but it just had not started the nuclear reaction which fuels today's sun. As the sun started to form from the debris of the dust/particle cloud so did all the planets."
The entire commentary (link).
The Earth is not Young, but the Sun's nuclear reaction, is... based on fossil evidence, a wee 500 million years old.

Astronomers Discover Coldest Star Ever [VIDEO]

Early Earth

But what about Stromatolites and photosynthesis 3.5 billion years ago?

That's covered here in full.

Had there been any sunlight, it would have never reached the surface of the Earth, anyway.

Early Earth

I profess my innocense of the crime of Bibliolatry, however, I am scathed with certain Atheists who've somehow came to the conclusion their deconversion (which soon lead to blasphemous attacks on people of faith and anti-religious tyrades) supposedly equal a one size fits all, "patent truth"(TM), or even worse, a "scientific truth." Only the religious minded are under the delusion they advance their creeds by deception and claims to possess a monopoly on "absolute truths". Not unlike their counterparts Theistic Fundamentalists, who also believe they monopolize some sacred "Truth of Truths"(TM)... yet in my years acquainting both extremes, not much appears to be about an actual search for greater truths, understanding or knowledge. Rather, hatred and bigotry tend to be the motivating factor behind their many senseless squabbles.

Straight from Scripture Commentary:

Trees Before Sunlight
See the King James Hebrew-Greek KeyWord Study Bible, AMG Publishers, 1991 for yet another reprint of this century-old LIE. This EVIL lie has been told and retold by theologians, biblical scholars, preachers and priests to paralyze brains of the religious, so that they may continue unabated generating billions in tithes and donations from the faithful, never again to question the dishonest anti-Darwinist rhetoric, so the church can continue fighting to stamp out truth and enlightenment. These men within the hallowed halls of the establishment of organized religion, just as those priests, the murderers of Jesus, are the enemies of God because "God" can only be found on the side of what is proven to be TRUTH. And I present the truth here vs. their evil lies that have deceived millions.

Prototaxites, A Fossil Fruiting Fungi, 'Tree'
Scientists discovered this fossilized, non-photosynthetic, fruiting "tree," and call it Prototaxites.

They said it couldn't be done, but here it is, thanks to modern science and praise to God for revealing the truth about the fossil record. Still waiting on evangelicals to address this fossil discovery and begin owning up to their wretched LIES and DAMNED LIES for over a century... if it looks, waddles and quacks like a tree... its probably a tree.
    "The various attempts to join together the biblical account of creation and evolution are not supportable by the various gap theories because the order of creation is in direct opposition to the views of modern science (e.g., the creation of trees before light.)"
Source: King James Hebrew-Greek KeyWord Study Bible, AMG Publishers, 1991

Yes, finally, trees exactly as described in Genesis, before, and without sunlight. And no, it's not another lame hoax. (Short) and (Long). See, Prototaxites, Fossilized "Fruiting Fungi," 'Tree'.

Also see Evolution of the Earliest Plant Organisms, specifically the "Fruiting Fungi" which fits an identical description,
1. Has fruit with "seed" (spores) inside itself, and
2. Can survive without sunlight (exactly as described in Genesis). Such organisms would have certainly existed during the Vendian/Precambrian.
3. For a long time, scientists presumed or presume a giant "mystery fungi" was a tree, a conifer, to be precise... and some have now described it as one of the "Fruiting Fungi".

Also, see "Fruit Trees Before Sunlight".

I Challenge All with this Thousand Dollar Question:
Please engage brain and point out where either term, "Create" or "Design," even appear in this text of Genesis?
Genesis 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth (tender) grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
Genesis 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Still Waiting...

When you Atheists or Fundamentalist Xtian Darwin-haters can squeeze "creation" or "design" out of any of those verses which imply natural selection, let me know.

And yes Atheists... please spare your sermon. Don't preach to the choir. I know all too well what you believe.

Just because people become familiarized with Atheism, hardly means they are so blown away... so mesmerized with "The Truth"(TM) and taken in by a few persuasive argument fallacies that they automatically deconvert and lose faith. That they didn't accept your religion, hardly constitutes a lack of understanding. Perhaps it's just that Atheism is that unappealing. *The Shock* *The Awe* -- how could everyone not see things your way? They're just in denial. (Sound familiar?) Every religious adherent is *in shock* and *in awe* when others do not want to buy into their brand of religion and they fail to convince potential converts. Just as my views might not interest you, well, perhaps I am fully understanding your views and yet, Atheism still remains just that unappealing. Mainly because of the hateful attitudes and blatant lies that often accompany "The Truth"(TM). Any religion that has that extent of negativity in it can't be good for anyone's emotional well-being. Meanwhile, I fully understand why most people will not subscribe to my views. Foremost, it requires a minimal amount of knowledge of several scientific fields of study and secondly, reasoning that requires "thinking outside the box". Lastly, I'm not proposing to have any "One and Only Truth(TM)". Just presenting scientific facts whilst challenging long-held cherished falsehoods as well as faith in people to exercise critical reasoning and make up their own minds, and whatever conclusion people may arrive at is fine with me.

Trees and Plants Before Sunlight
Documentary from "The Soviet Story,"
Jim Jones was a Communist
Eddie Vedder
Stage Name Marilyn Manson
Alice in Chains

The religious establishment and their twisted evil twin, anti-religion baiters said it couldn't be done, yet...

TREES INDEED!

Vegetation, Herbs and Trees Before Sunlight.
Oh well, I guess that dashes arguments of Atheists and Science-Hating fundamentalists to little itsy bitsy pieces.
(and more found here)

Karl Marx Created Adolf Hitler
Darwin's theory did not create Hitler as some have accused, nor did Hitler's Socialism have anything to do with Jesus Christ or Christianity. Besides Eugenics programme in early American history and over 27 states which had sterilization laws on the books before the time of Nazi Germany, Hitler derived his version of Communist ideologue, "National Socialism" directly from the Socialism of Karl Marx, advocate of the most malevolent version of toxic Atheism, and author of The Communist Manifesto which lead to the bloody death toll of at least 100 million in the 20th Century alone and the killing continues ...
See Anti-Communism

For more information on Communism, and the ghastly death tolls:

The Black Book of Communism
Black Book of Communism
Amazon

Harvard University Press
Communist regimes around the globe are responsible for a greater number of deaths than any other political ideal or movement. It takes a brick of a book to provide the crushing scope of this murderous ideology, that killed tens of millions in the 20th Century and that will continue to kill.

And while we're on the subject, let's set the record straight about Jim Jones, another evil, toxic atheist and Marxist-Leninist.
"How could I demonstrate my Marxism? The thought was, infiltrate the church."
- Jim Jones, founder of the murderous "People's Temple," a disgusting Atheist and Marxist degenerate camouflaged under the guise of being "A man of God".
Carried out to the instruction as Marxist Revolutionary Vladimir Lenin, founder of the USSR, stated a necessity to infiltrate the Church, because the religious will '"swallow anything" if it is wrapped in religious terms.'

Hitler, Messiah, Anti-Christ
Like Atheist Stalin, Hitler wages a war against people of all religion.
(See Commentary Link.)

Communists murdered 100 Million over the past century.

Communist party members are Atheists.

And no, sorry, but Joseph Stalin was not a Christian because he attended seminary once and Christianity did not turn him into a butcher. George Bernard Shaw was no Christian either when he openly supported Hitler and mass genocide by gassing.

I’m an atheist and I thank God for it.”
- George Bernard Shaw

Atheists know this doesn't look good when they attempt to convert people to Atheism, and people are aware of the death tolls under Communist regimes so Atheists will do mental cartwheels to conveniently deny history or come up with some other lame twisted argument fallacy to explain away the atrocities committed by Atheists, such as, "Communists worship the state," I suppose therefore they're not Atheists?? Hogwash! Enough of the silly grammar school semantics!! That's not what the Communist Party is saying, Atheists!! To become a member of the Atheist State Religion, ooops, I mean Communist Party, you must be a sworn Atheist. No exceptions!

Darwin was never the problem. ATHEISM was the problem!? No wonder Christians rejected Darwin's theory after people like George Bernard Shaw and Karl Marx latched on to it like the parasites they were!

I believe in the religion of Love which the Prophet Jesus Christ taught.
So, Atheists! Looks like that agenda to convert the world to your religion of atheism has alas backfired. Your hate propaganda has turned people off. People as a whole are still as spiritual as ever, if not more so. Oh, don't delude yourself, people understand very very well what you believe, and I know all too well what you believe with your religion of hate. Whatever side you're on, I'm not there!!!

My favorite Atheist, Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam, whose wonderful song "Jeremy" brought attention to the anguish of kids who deal with school bullies vs. my least favorite

Mr. Brian Warner, aka Marilyn "Who Needs Fred Phelps?" Manson? guilty of regularly bullying and abusing his employees, both physically and mentally. THE VIDEOS ARE DISTURBING. Just "boys being boys"? or more age old ignorance that leads to a society of bullies. Most people have heard about the evil antics, but remain oblivious to the level of inappropriate bullying and ruthless violence even band members apparently have grown weary of.

Saving the best for last.

Sorry 'tis not Atheist that I can tell, but it is Alice in Chains. My favorite band of all time, brazenly questioning religious dogma and rhetoric.

And not to forget my commentary on the meaning of Soundgarden: Black Hole Sun A must read... or at least, a must-listen!