Strawman Arguments Go Up In Flames

Polydactyly has been going on for over 300 Million Years... if Evolution (the Atheistic Variety) were merely trying to devise new body plans, it should've happened long before now...

Dr. Kenneth Miller provided actual _evidence_ of (Chimp Chromosome #2) a genetic link between old world apes, and earliest man-forms. The Atheists have provided NOTHING... NADA... ZIP. Did Chimp Chromosome #2 disprove Genesis, or did it establish what was actually written in Genesis 1, thousands of years ago. Strawman arguments: Because YEC misinterpreted, and ignored the vegetarian nature of early man... denying Paleontology, all of which Atheists base their pitiful arguments on... therefore, Genesis is disputed? Not hardly.
Genesis speaks of Vegetarian early man. They were an intermediate between ape and man, and I showed that in the video. They did everything described, from "dominating the fish" to subdueing the Earth.
Science/Genetics, is indisputable. YEC can misinterpret until the cows come home, and Atheists can base a million strawman arguments on YEC interpretations... still, everyone is failing to address what Genesis 1 actually has written in it. The book of Genesis, has been completely avoided by YEC and Atheists.

Those two warring factions have been the two most destructive forces, to the advancement of science.

So, let's stop discussing YEC, and start discussing the actual, literal text of Genesis 1 and Paleontology. Dr. Kenneth Miller only established a coherent, feasible understanding of what Epoch Six means... man was given the "herb" for meat... Robustus is theorized to have been a vegetarian due to his denitition. Let's stick to the text of Genesis, and actual science already, shall we? If Creationists take an interest in Genesis 1 and 2 and actual Paleontology/Science.. I will be satisfied.
I have nothing to "prove" to Atheists. God is not a holy Houdini who exists for entertaining Atheists... but God, being as temperamental as She is, may decide to send some plagues and curses on those Atheists for their idle, evil blaspheme. Patience can wear thin....
Yes, I meant "She" . . . as in "Let us create man," (Hebrew, for Plural Majesty), as in plural, 1)male and 2)female. God created the Human in the image of God. Have false teachers like Augustine and Tertullian, made women so ashamed, eternally condemned to carry a cross and the burden of man's sin, when Jesus has already did it for them... shame, to say she is created too, in the image of God?
"How can woman be the image of God? ... Woman, compared to other creatures, is the image of God, for she bears dominion over them. But compared unto man, she may not be called the image of God, for she bears not rule and lordship over man, but ought to obey him."

How they fail to read with comprehension, God is giving off a list of clear, evident curses, and, To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children..." oh and by the way, this man who refused to obey my commandments will rule over you."

How they lead each other astray in their arrogance, and false teachings, believing they have "Holy Hands" when even Jesus said, "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone." Luke 18:19

NOT ANYMORE. It becomes so apparent, from the narrow dark minds of men that hate, why it was not a blessing.. not a commandment, but a CURSE on woman that man would rule over her.

Such idolatrous men exalted themselves above woman, above the teachings of Jesus... above God himself.

Saint Jerome:
"I am aware that some have laid it down that virgins of Christ must not bathe with eunuchs or married women, because the former still have the minds of men and the latter may present the ugly spectacle of swollen [pregnant] bellies. For my part I say that mature girls must not bathe at all, because they ought to blush to see themselves naked."

"God's sentence hangs over the female sex, and His punishment weighs down on you. You are the devil's gateway. You first violated the forbidden tree and violated God's Law. You shattered God's image in man. And because you merited death, God's Son had to die."

Have false teachers like Tertullian, made women so ashamed, eternally condemned to carry a cross and the burden of man's sin, when Jesus has already did it for them... forced to live in eternal shame and self-hatred? Did Jesus die in vain, or did he not die for the sins of mankind? Yes or No?

"How can woman be the image of God? ... Woman, compared to other creatures, is the image of God, for she bears dominion over them. But compared unto man, she may not be called the image of God, for she bears not rule and lordship over man, but ought to obey him."

Thomas Aquinas:
"Woman is defective and misbegotten. For the active power in the male seed produces a perfect male likeness. A female comes from a defect in the male seed, or some indisposition, such as the south wind being too moist."

John Knox:
"Women are weak, they are frail, impatient, feeble, and foolish. They are inconstant, they are cruel, and lacking of spirit, and counsel. Woman in her greatest perfection was made only to serve, and obey men."

Martin Luther:
"Men have broad shoulders and narrow hips, so they have intelligence. Women have narrow shoulders, and broad hips to sit upon, so they ought to stay home, keep the house, and raise children. The woman differs from the man. She is weaker in body, in honour, in intellect, and in dignity."


"Take women away from their house-wifery, and they are good for nothing. If they get tired, and die from bearing children, that is no problem. They are made for that."

See University of North Carolina, Oppression of Women in Early Christianity

This statement alone, sounds bells and whistles it's a forgery:
"as the law also says (Genesis 3:16)"

By very virtue that any man was calling the CURSE in Genesis on woman, a "Law," proves he did not have any understanding of scripture.
  • Do read the Commandments of God, and pray tell me, where any mention therein commands women must "obey" a man? It is absent of such a thing. However, God's Commandments FIERCELY rebukes men, for lusting after their neighbor's wife and maid servants,
  • The Commandments do condemn adultery (following the commandment of murder!)
  • Jesus came teaching the law, and did not command women to obey men like cattle, but had women followers, and also, rebuked men for their adultery.
  • It was a command, God made to Moses, to circumsize the most sensitive portion of the male private... to lessen pleasure in hopes of deterring adultery...

    God did _not_like men committing adultery or abusing women.

    However, what's written in the Pauline forgeries, was _NOT_ a law, _NOT_ a Commandment, and _NOT_ a blessing that man would rule over women. It was a _CURSE_.
    No more than its in any of the laws, that if a man goes out to till his field, "MEN BETTER DRIP SWEAT OR ELSE."
    These forgeries do not stop there, they go even farther! They say that the male is immune from sin, having "holy hands"... while woman is forced to carry the cross with Jesus, eternally hanging her head in shame.

    I picked up this piece of info on University of NC about these FORGERIES in the New Testament :
    Scholarship May have Found a Solution to this Problem . . .
    As Ehrman (p. 346) states concerning "the harsh words of 1 Corinthians 14:34-35. Indeed, this passage is so similar to that of 1 Timothy 2:11-15, and so unlike what Paul says elsewhere, that many scholars are convinced that these too are words that Paul himself never wrote; rather they were later inserted into the letter of 1 Corinthians by a scribe who wanted to make Paul's views conform to those of the Pastoral epistles."

    Our Father and Mother, who art in Heaven!

    Nelson's King James Bible, © 1972, Thomas Nelson Publishers Inc.

    I may have got a little off topic, but at least, it's related to scriptures in Genesis

    Most of what atheistic, so-called Darwinists (more specifically, Atheists which make lame attempts to make war on God, camouflaging the agenda behind "Science," -- Darwin would have nothing to do with the Atheist fanatics, and duly noted he had confined himself to matters of Science), so more properly described as *Atheist* attacks on religion, merely requires some common sense to refute. That is to say, the information on which they base their argument to disprove God, proves nothing.

    I retrieved some photos of a local cat with six toes. Polydactyly supposedly presumes the body plan is attempting to "evolve" into some new species, instead of the genetic throwback to the past... a genetic mutation? Or dormant genes that permit a sixth toe to pop out on a rare occasion. This phenomena has been going on for epochs. It is nothing new. The majority of tetrapods have the same ole five toes. If it were intended for creatures to "randomly evolve" into six-digit creatures as some Atheists are theorizing... I think, it would've happened sometime within the past 300 Million years.

    See "An early tetrapod from 'Romer's Gap'."
    University Museum of Zoology, Cambridge, Downing St., Cambridge CB2 3EJ, UK. The fossil record of early tetrapods has been increased recently by new finds from the Devonian period and mid-late Early Carboniferous period. Despite this, understanding of tetrapod evolution has been hampered by a 20-million-year gap ('Romer's Gap') that covers the crucial, early period when many key features of terrestrial tetrapods were acquired. Here I describe the only articulated skeleton of a tetrapod, Pederpes, yet found from the Tournaisian epoch (354-344 million years ago (Myr)). The new taxon includes a pes with five robust digits, but a very small, possibly supernumerary digit preserved on the manus suggests the presence of polydactyly. Polydactylous early tetrapods may have survived beyond the end of the Devonian and pentadactyly cannot be assumed for the pes. However, the pes has characteristics that distinguish it from the paddle-like feet of the Devonian forms and resembles the feet of later, more terrestrially adapted Carboniferous forms. Pederpes is the earliest-known tetrapod to show the beginnings of terrestrial locomotion and was at least functionally pentadactyl. With its later American sister-genus, Whatcheeria, it represents the next most primitive tetrapod clade after those of the Late Devonian, bridging the temporal, morphological and phylogenetic gaps that have hitherto separated Late Devonian and mid-Carboniferous tetrapod faunas.
    PMID: 12097908 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    Evidently, they continue on, "after their kind," -- six toed tetrapods existed, in the earliest times, as they still do today... the same ole' same ole'... a genetic throwback to their origins. Now where are, all the six-toed creatures adapted as entire species... it seems as though atheistic, Darwinian Natural Selection explanation for evolution in the fossil record, has a serious case of constipation... where are all the speciations of six-toed creatures?

    Worst of all, is the feeble argument, "My cat has six toes, therefore, God does not exist."
    Please read that once again, and realize the feeble line of logic Atheists are followng in thier reasoning.

    The Fundamentalist said, "it was a perfect creation, God created every creature." Somewhat like a fairy tale impression of the world, therefore, when Atheists point out anamolies in nature, it refutes God? or even Genesis?

    The Atheist is merely making an argument to dispute human interpretations. The Atheist has yet to address a single point in what Genesis is actually saying, even further, utterly failed to provide "evidence" and dispute what is literally written in Genesis 1... including other aspects of the Bible, such as God doing away with the earth as it is known, and there being "A New Heaven, and New Earth." Obviously, God did not feel the world was perfect, as Fundamentalists claim.

    Atheists have built every strawman argument upon Fundamentalist interpretations, which have nothing to do with actual Science (Paleontology) or the chronology of Genesis. To attempt to do so, will leave the Atheist scrambling, and denying Science itself.

    Furthermore, if you read Genesis Epoch #3, the word "Created" is not even in the text. Epoch #4 goes one further, to indicate a randomness on God's command for the "waters to bring forth moving creatures," (that is, the waters creating the creatures... which brings to mind, Darwin's own theory) -- and like Epoch #3, still was not a direct act of creation. Followed by the first actual mention of "creating" -- God touching up on the already living (presuming, "every living" may possibly mean "extant") creatures, and "creating them after their kind." A vast majority of what the literal text in Genesis implies, from God's perspective, is as Forrest Gump put it, "Life is like a box a chocolates. You never know what you'll get." and God simply worked with what the earth and waters brought forth.
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    If educated and reason-minded Christian men of science like Louis Agassiz found it plausible to embrace the concept of a supernatural entity at work in nature, then the possibility is good enough for me.

    Science Fact: "The Sun and all the planets were formed at around the same time, depending on when you define the birth of the sun. Before the Sun became as it is today it was a proto sun, which had all the elements it has now but it just had not started the nuclear reaction which fuels today's sun. As the sun started to form from the debris of the dust/particle cloud so did all the planets."
    The entire commentary (link).
    The Earth is not Young, but the Sun's nuclear reaction, is... based on fossil evidence, a wee 500 million years old.

    Astronomers Discover Coldest Star Ever [VIDEO]

    Early Earth

    But what about Stromatolites and photosynthesis 3.5 billion years ago?

    That's covered here in full.

    Had there been any sunlight, it would have never reached the surface of the Earth, anyway.

    Early Earth

    I profess my innocense of the crime of Bibliolatry, however, I am scathed with certain Atheists who've somehow came to the conclusion their deconversion (which soon lead to blasphemous attacks on people of faith and anti-religious tyrades) supposedly equal a one size fits all, "patent truth"(TM), or even worse, a "scientific truth." Only the religious minded are under the delusion they advance their creeds by deception and claims to possess a monopoly on "absolute truths". Not unlike their counterparts Theistic Fundamentalists, who also believe they monopolize some sacred "Truth of Truths"(TM)... yet in my years acquainting both extremes, not much appears to be about an actual search for greater truths, understanding or knowledge. Rather, hatred and bigotry tend to be the motivating factor behind their many senseless squabbles.

    Straight from Scripture Commentary:

    Trees Before Sunlight
    See the King James Hebrew-Greek KeyWord Study Bible, AMG Publishers, 1991 for yet another reprint of this century-old LIE. This EVIL lie has been told and retold by theologians, biblical scholars, preachers and priests to paralyze brains of the religious, so that they may continue unabated generating billions in tithes and donations from the faithful, never again to question the dishonest anti-Darwinist rhetoric, so the church can continue fighting to stamp out truth and enlightenment. These men within the hallowed halls of the establishment of organized religion, just as those priests, the murderers of Jesus, are the enemies of God because "God" can only be found on the side of what is proven to be TRUTH. And I present the truth here vs. their evil lies that have deceived millions.

    Prototaxites, A Fossil Fruiting Fungi, 'Tree'
    Scientists discovered this fossilized, non-photosynthetic, fruiting "tree," and call it Prototaxites.

    They said it couldn't be done, but here it is, thanks to modern science and praise to God for revealing the truth about the fossil record. Still waiting on evangelicals to address this fossil discovery and begin owning up to their wretched LIES and DAMNED LIES for over a century... if it looks, waddles and quacks like a tree... its probably a tree.
        "The various attempts to join together the biblical account of creation and evolution are not supportable by the various gap theories because the order of creation is in direct opposition to the views of modern science (e.g., the creation of trees before light.)"
    Source: King James Hebrew-Greek KeyWord Study Bible, AMG Publishers, 1991

    Yes, finally, trees exactly as described in Genesis, before, and without sunlight. And no, it's not another lame hoax. (Short) and (Long). See, Prototaxites, Fossilized "Fruiting Fungi," 'Tree'.

    Also see Evolution of the Earliest Plant Organisms, specifically the "Fruiting Fungi" which fits an identical description,
    1. Has fruit with "seed" (spores) inside itself, and
    2. Can survive without sunlight (exactly as described in Genesis). Such organisms would have certainly existed during the Vendian/Precambrian.
    3. For a long time, scientists presumed or presume a giant "mystery fungi" was a tree, a conifer, to be precise... and some have now described it as one of the "Fruiting Fungi".

    Also, see "Fruit Trees Before Sunlight".

    I Challenge All with this Thousand Dollar Question:
    Please engage brain and point out where either term, "Create" or "Design," even appear in this text of Genesis?
    Genesis 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth (tender) grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
    Genesis 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
    Genesis 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

    Still Waiting...

    When you Atheists or Fundamentalist Xtian Darwin-haters can squeeze "creation" or "design" out of any of those verses which imply natural selection, let me know.

    And yes Atheists... please spare your sermon. Don't preach to the choir. I know all too well what you believe.

    Just because people become familiarized with Atheism, hardly means they are so blown away... so mesmerized with "The Truth"(TM) and taken in by a few persuasive argument fallacies that they automatically deconvert and lose faith. That they didn't accept your religion, hardly constitutes a lack of understanding. Perhaps it's just that Atheism is that unappealing. *The Shock* *The Awe* -- how could everyone not see things your way? They're just in denial. (Sound familiar?) Every religious adherent is *in shock* and *in awe* when others do not want to buy into their brand of religion and they fail to convince potential converts. Just as my views might not interest you, well, perhaps I am fully understanding your views and yet, Atheism still remains just that unappealing. Mainly because of the hateful attitudes and blatant lies that often accompany "The Truth"(TM). Any religion that has that extent of negativity in it can't be good for anyone's emotional well-being. Meanwhile, I fully understand why most people will not subscribe to my views. Foremost, it requires a minimal amount of knowledge of several scientific fields of study and secondly, reasoning that requires "thinking outside the box". Lastly, I'm not proposing to have any "One and Only Truth(TM)". Just presenting scientific facts whilst challenging long-held cherished falsehoods as well as faith in people to exercise critical reasoning and make up their own minds, and whatever conclusion people may arrive at is fine with me.

    Trees and Plants Before Sunlight
    Documentary from "The Soviet Story,"
    Jim Jones was a Communist
    Eddie Vedder
    Stage Name Marilyn Manson
    Alice in Chains

    The religious establishment and their twisted evil twin, anti-religion baiters said it couldn't be done, yet...


    Vegetation, Herbs and Trees Before Sunlight.
    Oh well, I guess that dashes arguments of Atheists and Science-Hating fundamentalists to little itsy bitsy pieces.
    (and more found here)

    Karl Marx Created Adolf Hitler
    Darwin's theory did not create Hitler as some have accused, nor did Hitler's Socialism have anything to do with Jesus Christ or Christianity. Besides Eugenics programme in early American history and over 27 states which had sterilization laws on the books before the time of Nazi Germany, Hitler derived his version of Communist ideologue, "National Socialism" directly from the Socialism of Karl Marx, advocate of the most malevolent version of toxic Atheism, and author of The Communist Manifesto which lead to the bloody death toll of at least 100 million in the 20th Century alone and the killing continues ...
    See Anti-Communism

    For more information on Communism, and the ghastly death tolls:

    The Black Book of Communism
    Black Book of Communism

    Harvard University Press
    Communist regimes around the globe are responsible for a greater number of deaths than any other political ideal or movement. It takes a brick of a book to provide the crushing scope of this murderous ideology, that killed tens of millions in the 20th Century and that will continue to kill.

    And while we're on the subject, let's set the record straight about Jim Jones, another evil, toxic atheist and Marxist-Leninist.
    "How could I demonstrate my Marxism? The thought was, infiltrate the church."
    - Jim Jones, founder of the murderous "People's Temple," a disgusting Atheist and Marxist degenerate camouflaged under the guise of being "A man of God".
    Carried out to the instruction as Marxist Revolutionary Vladimir Lenin, founder of the USSR, stated a necessity to infiltrate the Church, because the religious will '"swallow anything" if it is wrapped in religious terms.'

    Hitler, Messiah, Anti-Christ
    Like Atheist Stalin, Hitler wages a war against people of all religion.
    (See Commentary Link.)

    Communists murdered 100 Million over the past century.

    Communist party members are Atheists.

    And no, sorry, but Joseph Stalin was not a Christian because he attended seminary once and Christianity did not turn him into a butcher. George Bernard Shaw was no Christian either when he openly supported Hitler and mass genocide by gassing.

    I’m an atheist and I thank God for it.”
    - George Bernard Shaw

    Atheists know this doesn't look good when they attempt to convert people to Atheism, and people are aware of the death tolls under Communist regimes so Atheists will do mental cartwheels to conveniently deny history or come up with some other lame twisted argument fallacy to explain away the atrocities committed by Atheists, such as, "Communists worship the state," I suppose therefore they're not Atheists?? Hogwash! Enough of the silly grammar school semantics!! That's not what the Communist Party is saying, Atheists!! To become a member of the Atheist State Religion, ooops, I mean Communist Party, you must be a sworn Atheist. No exceptions!

    Darwin was never the problem. ATHEISM was the problem!? No wonder Christians rejected Darwin's theory after people like George Bernard Shaw and Karl Marx latched on to it like the parasites they were!

    I believe in the religion of Love which the Prophet Jesus Christ taught.
    So, Atheists! Looks like that agenda to convert the world to your religion of atheism has alas backfired. Your hate propaganda has turned people off. People as a whole are still as spiritual as ever, if not more so. Oh, don't delude yourself, people understand very very well what you believe, and I know all too well what you believe with your religion of hate. Whatever side you're on, I'm not there!!!

    My favorite Atheist, Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam, whose wonderful song "Jeremy" brought attention to the anguish of kids who deal with school bullies vs. my least favorite

    Mr. Brian Warner, aka Marilyn "Who Needs Fred Phelps?" Manson? guilty of regularly bullying and abusing his employees, both physically and mentally. THE VIDEOS ARE DISTURBING. Just "boys being boys"? or more age old ignorance that leads to a society of bullies. Most people have heard about the evil antics, but remain oblivious to the level of inappropriate bullying and ruthless violence even band members apparently have grown weary of.

    Saving the best for last.

    Sorry 'tis not Atheist that I can tell, but it is Alice in Chains. My favorite band of all time, brazenly questioning religious dogma and rhetoric.

    And not to forget my commentary on the meaning of Soundgarden: Black Hole Sun A must read... or at least, a must-listen!