Genesis 1:6-8 ( Day Two of Genesis )

A ( 3-D Visual Animation Video ) presentation of Genesis 1:6 through Genesis 1:8. . . the completion of "Day #Two". What is demonstrated in this video, is only for purpose of demonstrating the separation of the atmosphere; in Hebrew, the definition of "Firmament" is noted in the King James as meaning an "Expansion," which would imply an expanse which divides atmospheric moisture vs. ground water (that would become the ocean). "Seas" are not even described as occuring until "Day #3." It is portrayed as blackened which I'm purposely doing, to show the thin layer of cooling lava... In reality, early Earth would have likely had blackened out skies from smoke, poison gasses, with water as heavy steam, and completely inhospitable with zero visibility, that is, until the further evolution of Earth's atmosphere.
Much, much more could be said about the evolution of the Earth's atmosphere.

Young Earth Creationists fairly much arrived at the same conclusion about the "firmament" meaning an "Atmosphere" vs. the Babylonian mythology superimposed on the Genesis 1 chronology by certain Agnostics and Atheists.

I just have one thought to add. This is something I was not aware of when I wrote that article. Ancient languages usually had no more than a few thousand words. In contrast to modern languages like English, which has over a million.
To show there is any sort of problem, the critics need to suggest a word that should have been used in place of raqiya. As it is, I find it to be the best word that they had available to describe the atmosphere.
If a word is suggested, it needs to be one they had back then, also. In a similar context I had a guy suggest a word that was not around until modern times.


Water would've been primarily "hot steam" in the earliest period of Earth's evolution... cooling would cause the effect I've shown in the video. (We see it happening even today... in the form of water molecules/steam... forming clouds...which cool and become heavy and fall in the form of rain to the ground.

Genesis 1:6 And God said, "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters."

Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

Genesis 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

The Original Hebrew

There was a definate cooling phase early in Earth history, where _all waters_ were in the form of hot steam just above the boiling rock/lava, and no possibility of cool oceans to exist, yet. The formation of "seas" are mentioned in the next phase, the third day, or third "epoch of creation" / as Louis Agassiz might call it)...
I was made aware very young, that when you see italicized text as in italicized it denotes a word thrown in, to better clarify the original Hebrew.

Where the text is saying "above" the firmament and "below" the firmament.. it could have originally meant "upper level atmosphere" and "lower level atmosphere"... as in "above, inside the firmament" and "below inside the firmament"... but it is difficult to tell. However the case may be... there was _ABSOLUTELY_ a division of waters when the cooling phase of earth began. Because, science itself teaches that at one point, the earth was a chunk of boiling lava... all the earth (i.e., Hawaii) is what volcanos have spewed to the surface, and cooled... so with that in mind, we can deduce the early earth was INHOSPITABLY HOT at one time, and surrounded by a _solid body of Hot, Heavy Steam_.
It was indeed divided to allow ground water, and humidity (in the form of clouds)...

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Science certainly teaches it *was*... and still is to this day. Imagine what would happen if you scraped away that thin layer of crust.. See attached image. . . there was no "ocean" on that thing, nor was there an atmosphere, in early earth history... just hot, heavy steam blown off from volcanic activity.
Even that the verse states "firmament, (an expansion) in the _midst_ of the waters" tells us there was a solid body of water, and it divided IN THE MIDST (MIDDLE) OF IT, into upper level and lower level waters.

It is the atmosphere the Hebrew is speaking of.

Getting a little more detailed

The Hebrew appears to indicate something in the atmosphere (a little more detailed than simply saying "Atmosphere" in the general sense)... but a specific layer in the atmosphere, responsible for actually cooling and causing rain to fall....


The firmament is an "expansion" that caused "hot steam" to divide into upper level water (clouds and humidity), and lower level water (ground waters).

It must be a layer in the atmosphere, perhaps, that causes cooling of water...

May the good Lord reveal the answer!!

In the midst (middle) of the waters (hot steam of early earth).... I wonder if this is it ... smack square in the middle of the atmosphere.

Stratosphere: The stratosphere extends from approximately 10-12 km to around 50 km above the Earth's surface. The air temperature remains relatively constant up to an altitude of 25 km, then increases gradually having a stabilizing effect on atmospheric conditions. The stratosphere contains nearly 90 percent of the atmospheric ozone, which plays a major role in regulating temperatures as solar energy is converted to kinetic energy when the ozone molecules absorb ultraviolet radiation, resulting in the heating of the stratosphere.

Troposphere: The troposphere is the layer closest to the Earth’s surface, containing more than 80 percent of total atmospheric mass - composed of 78 percent nitrogen, 21 percent oxygen, other trace gases, water droplets, dust, and other particles. The troposphere is where most weather occurs; the circulation of air in intensive vertical movements results in the formation of clouds, while horizontal movements results in wind. Both temperature and water vapor content decrease rapidly as altitude increases within the troposphere. Nearly 99 percent of atmospheric water vapor is contained within this layer, which plays a major role in regulating air temperature as it absorbs solar energy and thermal radiation from the planet's surface.
~ http://www.enviroliteracy org/category.php/1.html

Ask any Meteorologist if the Troposphere is not a SOLID "structure"... in fact, the Stratosphere/Troposphere is a more "solid" scientific case, than any dome in Babylonian mythology.
The Troposphere is directly responsible for "weather" and rain... a "solid" ... firm ... layer in the atmosphere, that does indeed divide the water, into either clouds, and causes water to fall in the form of rain.
[Middle English, from Old French, from Late Latin firmmentum, from Latin, support, from firmre, to strengthen; see firm2.]

See attached firmament.jpg as a footnote in the King James.

It means an
1) "expansion" that
2) divides the water... and
3) even a solid / firm structure (layer of the atmosphere).
4) that God would call "Heaven". (Genesis 1:8)

Genesis 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven.

The troposphere certainly qualifies to fit that description. And possibly, the Strastophere which could possibly be "the waters above the firmament" that are spoken of in Genesis.

How large is ice cloud formation in the stratosphere and why doesn ...
Sep 16, 2007 ... How large is ice cloud formation in the stratosphere and why doesn't ... will grow large enough to comprise snow crystals and snow flakes. ...

So much for "Babylonian Mythology".

More like "Modern Meterology".

A couple corrections

# 1 ... not smack dab in the middle of the atmosphere... but in the midst of THE WATERS...

#2 ..."Firmament" is defined as an,
1) "expansion" that
2) divides water... and,
3) has water above it, and below it
4) even a solid / firm structure (layer of the atmosphere).
5) that God would call "Heaven". (Genesis 1:8)

The Firmament is the Troposphere.

What a divine riddle!

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If educated and reason-minded Christian men of science like Louis Agassiz found it plausible to embrace the concept of a supernatural entity at work in nature, then the possibility is good enough for me.

Science Fact: "The Sun and all the planets were formed at around the same time, depending on when you define the birth of the sun. Before the Sun became as it is today it was a proto sun, which had all the elements it has now but it just had not started the nuclear reaction which fuels today's sun. As the sun started to form from the debris of the dust/particle cloud so did all the planets."
The entire commentary (link).
The Earth is not Young, but the Sun's nuclear reaction, is... based on fossil evidence, a wee 500 million years old.

Astronomers Discover Coldest Star Ever [VIDEO]

Early Earth

But what about Stromatolites and photosynthesis 3.5 billion years ago?

That's covered here in full.

Had there been any sunlight, it would have never reached the surface of the Earth, anyway.

Early Earth

I profess my innocense of the crime of Bibliolatry, however, I am scathed with certain Atheists who've somehow came to the conclusion their deconversion (which soon lead to blasphemous attacks on people of faith and anti-religious tyrades) supposedly equal a one size fits all, "patent truth"(TM), or even worse, a "scientific truth." Only the religious minded are under the delusion they advance their creeds by deception and claims to possess a monopoly on "absolute truths". Not unlike their counterparts Theistic Fundamentalists, who also believe they monopolize some sacred "Truth of Truths"(TM)... yet in my years acquainting both extremes, not much appears to be about an actual search for greater truths, understanding or knowledge. Rather, hatred and bigotry tend to be the motivating factor behind their many senseless squabbles.

Straight from Scripture Commentary:

Trees Before Sunlight
See the King James Hebrew-Greek KeyWord Study Bible, AMG Publishers, 1991 for yet another reprint of this century-old LIE. This EVIL lie has been told and retold by theologians, biblical scholars, preachers and priests to paralyze brains of the religious, so that they may continue unabated generating billions in tithes and donations from the faithful, never again to question the dishonest anti-Darwinist rhetoric, so the church can continue fighting to stamp out truth and enlightenment. These men within the hallowed halls of the establishment of organized religion, just as those priests, the murderers of Jesus, are the enemies of God because "God" can only be found on the side of what is proven to be TRUTH. And I present the truth here vs. their evil lies that have deceived millions.

Prototaxites, A Fossil Fruiting Fungi, 'Tree'
Scientists discovered this fossilized, non-photosynthetic, fruiting "tree," and call it Prototaxites.

They said it couldn't be done, but here it is, thanks to modern science and praise to God for revealing the truth about the fossil record. Still waiting on evangelicals to address this fossil discovery and begin owning up to their wretched LIES and DAMNED LIES for over a century... if it looks, waddles and quacks like a tree... its probably a tree.
    "The various attempts to join together the biblical account of creation and evolution are not supportable by the various gap theories because the order of creation is in direct opposition to the views of modern science (e.g., the creation of trees before light.)"
Source: King James Hebrew-Greek KeyWord Study Bible, AMG Publishers, 1991

Yes, finally, trees exactly as described in Genesis, before, and without sunlight. And no, it's not another lame hoax. (Short) and (Long). See, Prototaxites, Fossilized "Fruiting Fungi," 'Tree'.

Also see Evolution of the Earliest Plant Organisms, specifically the "Fruiting Fungi" which fits an identical description,
1. Has fruit with "seed" (spores) inside itself, and
2. Can survive without sunlight (exactly as described in Genesis). Such organisms would have certainly existed during the Vendian/Precambrian.
3. For a long time, scientists presumed or presume a giant "mystery fungi" was a tree, a conifer, to be precise... and some have now described it as one of the "Fruiting Fungi".

Also, see "Fruit Trees Before Sunlight".

I Challenge All with this Thousand Dollar Question:
Please engage brain and point out where either term, "Create" or "Design," even appear in this text of Genesis?
Genesis 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth (tender) grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
Genesis 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Still Waiting...

When you Atheists or Fundamentalist Xtian Darwin-haters can squeeze "creation" or "design" out of any of those verses which imply natural selection, let me know.

And yes Atheists... please spare your sermon. Don't preach to the choir. I know all too well what you believe.

Just because people become familiarized with Atheism, hardly means they are so blown away... so mesmerized with "The Truth"(TM) and taken in by a few persuasive argument fallacies that they automatically deconvert and lose faith. That they didn't accept your religion, hardly constitutes a lack of understanding. Perhaps it's just that Atheism is that unappealing. *The Shock* *The Awe* -- how could everyone not see things your way? They're just in denial. (Sound familiar?) Every religious adherent is *in shock* and *in awe* when others do not want to buy into their brand of religion and they fail to convince potential converts. Just as my views might not interest you, well, perhaps I am fully understanding your views and yet, Atheism still remains just that unappealing. Mainly because of the hateful attitudes and blatant lies that often accompany "The Truth"(TM). Any religion that has that extent of negativity in it can't be good for anyone's emotional well-being. Meanwhile, I fully understand why most people will not subscribe to my views. Foremost, it requires a minimal amount of knowledge of several scientific fields of study and secondly, reasoning that requires "thinking outside the box". Lastly, I'm not proposing to have any "One and Only Truth(TM)". Just presenting scientific facts whilst challenging long-held cherished falsehoods as well as faith in people to exercise critical reasoning and make up their own minds, and whatever conclusion people may arrive at is fine with me.

Trees and Plants Before Sunlight
Documentary from "The Soviet Story,"
Jim Jones was a Communist
Eddie Vedder
Stage Name Marilyn Manson
Alice in Chains

The religious establishment and their twisted evil twin, anti-religion baiters said it couldn't be done, yet...


Vegetation, Herbs and Trees Before Sunlight.
Oh well, I guess that dashes arguments of Atheists and Science-Hating fundamentalists to little itsy bitsy pieces.
(and more found here)

Karl Marx Created Adolf Hitler
Darwin's theory did not create Hitler as some have accused, nor did Hitler's Socialism have anything to do with Jesus Christ or Christianity. Besides Eugenics programme in early American history and over 27 states which had sterilization laws on the books before the time of Nazi Germany, Hitler derived his version of Communist ideologue, "National Socialism" directly from the Socialism of Karl Marx, advocate of the most malevolent version of toxic Atheism, and author of The Communist Manifesto which lead to the bloody death toll of at least 100 million in the 20th Century alone and the killing continues ...
See Anti-Communism

For more information on Communism, and the ghastly death tolls:

The Black Book of Communism
Black Book of Communism

Harvard University Press
Communist regimes around the globe are responsible for a greater number of deaths than any other political ideal or movement. It takes a brick of a book to provide the crushing scope of this murderous ideology, that killed tens of millions in the 20th Century and that will continue to kill.

And while we're on the subject, let's set the record straight about Jim Jones, another evil, toxic atheist and Marxist-Leninist.
"How could I demonstrate my Marxism? The thought was, infiltrate the church."
- Jim Jones, founder of the murderous "People's Temple," a disgusting Atheist and Marxist degenerate camouflaged under the guise of being "A man of God".
Carried out to the instruction as Marxist Revolutionary Vladimir Lenin, founder of the USSR, stated a necessity to infiltrate the Church, because the religious will '"swallow anything" if it is wrapped in religious terms.'

Hitler, Messiah, Anti-Christ
Like Atheist Stalin, Hitler wages a war against people of all religion.
(See Commentary Link.)

Communists murdered 100 Million over the past century.

Communist party members are Atheists.

And no, sorry, but Joseph Stalin was not a Christian because he attended seminary once and Christianity did not turn him into a butcher. George Bernard Shaw was no Christian either when he openly supported Hitler and mass genocide by gassing.

I’m an atheist and I thank God for it.”
- George Bernard Shaw

Atheists know this doesn't look good when they attempt to convert people to Atheism, and people are aware of the death tolls under Communist regimes so Atheists will do mental cartwheels to conveniently deny history or come up with some other lame twisted argument fallacy to explain away the atrocities committed by Atheists, such as, "Communists worship the state," I suppose therefore they're not Atheists?? Hogwash! Enough of the silly grammar school semantics!! That's not what the Communist Party is saying, Atheists!! To become a member of the Atheist State Religion, ooops, I mean Communist Party, you must be a sworn Atheist. No exceptions!

Darwin was never the problem. ATHEISM was the problem!? No wonder Christians rejected Darwin's theory after people like George Bernard Shaw and Karl Marx latched on to it like the parasites they were!

I believe in the religion of Love which the Prophet Jesus Christ taught.
So, Atheists! Looks like that agenda to convert the world to your religion of atheism has alas backfired. Your hate propaganda has turned people off. People as a whole are still as spiritual as ever, if not more so. Oh, don't delude yourself, people understand very very well what you believe, and I know all too well what you believe with your religion of hate. Whatever side you're on, I'm not there!!!

My favorite Atheist, Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam, whose wonderful song "Jeremy" brought attention to the anguish of kids who deal with school bullies vs. my least favorite

Mr. Brian Warner, aka Marilyn "Who Needs Fred Phelps?" Manson? guilty of regularly bullying and abusing his employees, both physically and mentally. THE VIDEOS ARE DISTURBING. Just "boys being boys"? or more age old ignorance that leads to a society of bullies. Most people have heard about the evil antics, but remain oblivious to the level of inappropriate bullying and ruthless violence even band members apparently have grown weary of.

Saving the best for last.

Sorry 'tis not Atheist that I can tell, but it is Alice in Chains. My favorite band of all time, brazenly questioning religious dogma and rhetoric.

And not to forget my commentary on the meaning of Soundgarden: Black Hole Sun A must read... or at least, a must-listen!